Truth About Habs’ Bergevin’s Trade Record

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Marc Bergevin took over as the Montreal Canadiens’ General Manager on May 2, 2012. Since then, his team has a combined 210-128-38 record, including three Atlantic Division Titles and with at least 100 points (or on pace during lockout year) in four of the five years. As July 16, 2017, he has also completed a grand total of 46 trades, making him one of the most active GM’s in the last five years. While it’s one thing to trade players, the ultimate goal for a GM is to, at the very least, improve your team and Bergevin has done just that… for the most part.

As determining who “wins” or “loses” a trade is arbitrary, I tried to stay as unbiased as humanly possible but some won’t agree with my assessment and that’s just fine. You will see that regardless, if people take an unbiased approach, the results might change ever so slightly but they should rapidly realize that things aren’t as sombre as some want you to believe.

 

WINS

  • Cedrick Desjardins traded to Tampa Bay Lightning for Dustin Tokarski (2013) Tokarski was very good when Carey Price went down to injury.
  • (W) 5th round pick #146 (Patrick Bartosak) traded to Los Angeles Kings for Davis Drewiske (2013) Drewiske brought NHL experience at a time when the Habs needed some at the blueline.
  • Philippe Lefebvre and a 7th round pick #182 (Hugo Fagerblom) in 2014 traded to Florida Panthers for George Parros (2013) While some don’t like enforcers, it was a very low price to pay to bring in the best in the game at the time. It’s unfortunate that a fluke play during a fight against Colton Orr ended his career.
  • Raphael Diaz traded to Vancouver Canucks for Dale Weise (2014) Do we really need to explain?
  • 5th round pick #147 (Ryan Pilon – NYI) in 2015 traded to Florida Panthers for Mike Weaver (2014) Weaver was one of the NHL’s top shot blockers.
  • Sebastian Collberg and a 2nd round pick #57 (Johnathan MacLeod – TBL) in 2014 traded to New York Islanders for Thomas Vanek and a 5th round pick #125 (Nikolas Koberstein) in 2014. (2014) Vanek ended the season on one of the NHL’s top producing lines with Pacioretty and Desharnais.
  • Josh Gorges traded to Buffalo Sabres for a 2nd round pick #45 (Chad Krys – CHI) in 2016 later traded to Chicago (Weise/Fleishmann trade, turned into Danault + 2nd) (2014) The fact that the pick turned into Danault…
  • Jiri Sekac traded to Anaheim Ducks for Devante Smith-Pelly (2015) Smith-Pelly is still in the NHL.
  • 2nd round pick #57 (Jonas Siegenthaler) in 2015 and a 4th round pick #117 (Caleb Jones) in 2015 traded to Edmonton Oilers for Jeff Petry. (2015) Considering that Petry signed long term with the Habs bringing excellent minutes on the second pairing.
  • 5th round pick #129 (Philip Nyberg) in 2016 traded to Buffalo Sabres for Brian Flynn (2015) Small price to pay for a NHL forward capable of playing a sound game.
  • Jack Nevins and a 7th round pick #189 (Austin Osmanski) in 2016 traded to Buffalo Sabres for Torrey Mitchell (2015) Mitchell has provided excellent minutes for the Canadiens.
  • Dale Weise and Tomas Fleischmann traded to Chicago Blackhawks for Phillip Danault and a 2nd round pick (TBD) in 2018 (2016) This could very well be a steal of a trade.
  • Lars Eller traded to Washington Capitals for a 2nd round pick #58 (Joni Ikonen) in 2017 and a 2nd round pick (TBD) in 2018, which was later conditionally traded to Tampa Bay in the deal for Jonathan Drouin (June 15, 2017) (2016) Ikonen already looks very promising while the pick helped get Drouin.
  • Greg Pateryn and a 4th round pick #118 (Markus Phillips) in 2017 traded to Dallas Stars for Jordie Benn (2017) To the point where the Canadiens were forced to protect Benn, Phillips better be really good to make this one even.
  • 6th round pick (TBD) in 2018 traded to Detroit Red Wings for Steve Ott (2017) Ott has provided experience and grit down the stretch and in the playoffs.

LOSSES

  • Daniel Briere traded to Colorado Avalanche for P.A. Parenteau and a 5th round pick #131 (Matthew Bradley) in 2015 (2014) Briere never could find a niche with the Canadiens.
  • Peter Budaj and Patrick Holland traded to Winnipeg Jets for Eric Tangradi (2014) A meh trade, with relatively low cost.
  • Brandon Prust traded to Vancouver Canucks for Zack Kassian and a 5th round pick #124 (Casey Staum) in 2016 (2015) Twice Kassian has made the “losses” for Bergevin in a trade, a lot having to do with his addiction.
  • Devante Smith-Pelly traded to New Jersey Devils for Stefan Matteau (2016) Although DSP is not lighting it up, at least he’s in the NHL.
  • Zack Kassian traded to Edmonton Oilers for Ben Scrivens (2015) See above.
  • 4th round conditional pick (TBD) in 2018 traded to Los Angeles Kings for Dwight King (2017) King was a big disappointment with the Canadiens.

TIES

TO BE DETERMINED

  • 3rd round pick #87 (Anton Karlsson) in 2014 and a 4th round pick #117 (Michael Bunting) in 2014 traded to Arizona Coyotes for 3rd round pick #73 (Brett Lernout) in 2014 (2014)
  • 2nd round pick #39 (Alexander DeBrincat) in 2016 and a 2nd round pick #45 (Chad Krys) in 2016 traded to Chicago Blackhawks for Andrew Shaw (2016) If the prospects don’t pan out, it will be a win for the Habs.
  • Philip Samuelsson traded to Carolina Hurricanes for Keegan Lowe (2017)
  • Sven Andrighetto traded to Colorado Avalanche for Andreas Martinsen (2017) Andrighetto had a good start with the Avs. Let’s see what he does this year.
  • Nathan Beaulieu traded to Buffalo Sabres for a 3rd round pick #68 (Scott Walford) in 2017 (2017) Some would like to pounce on Bergevin for that one but the fact and the matter is that no team offered more than an early 3rd for Beaulieu.
  • 5th round pick (TBD) in 2019 traded to San Jose Sharks for David Schlemko (2017) This could very well be at the Canadiens’ advantage, in the win column for Bergevin but let’s wait to see how Schlemko plays in Montreal.

So as you can see, according to my calculation, Bergevin’s record when it comes to the trades that he made is an astonishing 15-6-19 with another six trades where it’s too early to tell. This means that he has tied or won 85 percent of the trades that he’s made so far, give or take a few trades here and there depending if you have an axe to grind against the organization or not. Any NHL team will take that and we better understand why Brian Burke feels like the attacks on Bergevin are absurd.

Habs Top Picks Trouble for Timmins?

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With the NHL Draft coming up, Trevor Timmins and his team are working alongside Marc Bergevin to determine the Montreal Canadiens’ next moves when it comes to replenishing the prospects’ cupboards. The Canadiens’ General Manager has always been reluctant to trade his draft picks, particularly his top rounds picks, and when he does (see the Andrew Shaw trade), he usually tries to get them back somehow (see the Lars Eller trade).

There is little doubt that the loss of Mikhail Sergachev, the team’s top prospect, sacrificed in the trade to acquire Jonathan Drouin, has contributed to depleting the quality and depth of the prospect pool. Sergachev, who many including myself saw as Andrei Markov‘s eventual replacement, had some immense potential and time will tell if he reaches it. But looking at the Canadiens’ top picks over the last few years, one has to wonder if he will.

Those of follow this blog will remember the complete analysis of Timmins’ track record with the Canadiens since 2003 proving that he did quite well, but when taking a closer look at the top two rounds of the draft, it seems like his record isn’t as shiny as his overall performance. But as you know, I’m not one going on speculations rather than facts so let’s get right to it and look at Timmins’ picks in the top two rounds over the years, and where those players are today. Notice how 2007 was a homerun year for Timmins in the top two rounds…

2003

  • Andrei Kostitsyn – 1st round, 10th overall – 398 NHL games played
  • Cory Urquhart – 2nd round, 40th overall – 0 NHL games played
  • Maxim Lapierre – 2nd round, 61st overall – 614 NHL games played

2004

  • Kyle Chipchura – 1st round, 18th overall – 482 NHL games played

2005

  • Carey Price – 1st round, 5th overall – 509 NHL games played
  • Guillaume Latendresse – 2nd round, 45th overall – 341 NHL games played

2006

  • David Fisher – 1st round, 20th overall – 0 NHL games played
  • Ben Maxwell – 2nd round, 49th overall – 47 NHL games played
  • Mathieu Carle – 2nd round, 53th overall – 3 NHL games played

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2007

  • Ryan McDonagh – 1st round, 12th overall – 467 NHL games played
  • Max Pacioretty – 1st round, 22nd overall – 562 NHL games played
  • P.K. Subban – 2nd round, 43rd overall – 500 NHL games played

2008

  • Dany Kristo – 2nd round, 56th overall – 0 NHL games played

2009

  • Louis Leblanc – 1st round, 18th overall – 50 NHL games played

2010

  • Jarred Tinordi – 1st round, 22nd overall – 53 NHL games played

2011

  • Nathan Beaulieu – 1st round, 17th overall – 225 NHL games played

2012

  • Alex Galchenyuk – 1st round, 3rd overall – 336 NHL games played
  • Sebastian Collberg – 2nd round, 33rd overall – 0 NHL games played
  • Dalton Thrower – 2nd round, 51st overall – 0 NHL games played

2013

  • Michael McCarron – 1st round, 25th overall – 51 NHL games played
  • Jacob De la Rose – 2nd round, 34th overall – 64 NHL games played
  • Zachary Fucale – 2nd round, 36th overall – 0 NHL games played
  • Arturri Lehkonen – 2nd round, 55th overall – 73 NHL games played

2014

  • Nikita Scherbak – 1st round, 26th overall – 3 NHL games played

2015

  • Noah Juulsen – 1st round, 26th overall – 0 NHL games played

2016

  • Mikhail Sergachev – 1st round, 9th overall – 4 NHL games played

 

I don’t know about you, but I was shocked at the number of misses in Timmins’ top two rounds, guys who didn’t even make the NHL in some cases. Granted that drafting is not a perfect science as you are not only evaluating a players’ skills at 17-18 years olds amongst peers of his own age, but you are asking recruiters to trying to predict not only the ceiling of those teenagers, but their development as well. This is why I am a strong supporter of moving the draft age up from 18 to 19 years of age. Not a huge difference, but an improvement none the less.

At the time of writing these lines, Timmins will have six players to select on Friday and Saturday in Chicago. The Canadiens will select 25th overall in the first round, then will be speaking twice in the second round: their own pick at 56th and the Washington Capitals’ pick at 58th, obtained in the Lars Eller trade. The Habs also have two third round picks as they will speak at 68th, the pick they received from the Buffalo Sabres for Nathan Beaulieu, and again at 87th with their own pick. They will then pick again at number 149, in the fifth round before calling it the day, unless trades occur.